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The West Coast Phenomenon…
Is this the next wave of the
future?
by Kathy Greer
Okay, so I was at an auction last week and
they were selling off a private paperweight collection, one tray lot after
another… And they were going cheap, seven or eight paperweights on a tray
for less than $40 a tray. And there was no buyer’s premium! As a paperweight
collector, I thought I was in heaven. Except I only wanted a couple of
the weights for my personal collection. What to do with the others?
When I started thinking about all the work it was going to take to list
each paperweight on eBay, and take all the pictures, and answer all the
email questions, I almost stopped bidding. Then I thought, what the heck.
I’ll just drop them off at my neighborhood AuctionDrop and let them do
the work.
My neighborhood what?
Recent technology articles have touted the growing popularity
of eBay drop-off stores. A concept that originated in California has a
number of followers with catchy names like AuctionDrop, iSold It, QuikDrop,
AuctionWagon, NuMarkets, Pictureitsold, AuctionValet, Drop
N Run and DropSmart.
In the January 7, 2004 issue of the online newsletter
AuctionBytes, Ina Steiner announced, “Two More eBay Consignment Drop-Off
Stores Open in California.”
Specifically, iSold It opened its first location in Pasadena,
California, and AuctionValet opened its first location in Lake Forest in
Orange County, California.
The concept behind all of these brick-and-mortar businesses
is to sell consumer goods on eBay, with the store taking a commission and/or
fee on each sale, sometimes both. Some of the businesses operate independently;
others all connect to a central hub. Interestingly, AuctionDrop has raised
$6.5 million in venture capital funding, specifically from Mobius Venture
Capital and Draper Associates. It currently operates four stores in the
San Francisco Bay area. The first store opened in March 2003 and by the
end of December, AuctionDrop announced sales of 1.6 million, with at least
$300,000 of that amount being sold in the month of December alone.
QuikDrop has opened franchise stores in Texas, California,
Alabama, Montana, Virginia, and South Carolina. Reminiscent to this reporter
of the heyday’s of the dotcom boom, some big names are getting into the
action. iSold It is backed by the management team behind franchise operator
Wetzel’s Pretzels, and has announced it is offering franchises nationwide.
We wonder when New England will see its first iSold It stores.
AuctionValet says it intends to open several more
retail locations throughout Southern California over the next 18 months,
while AuctionDrop plans to add company-owned store in the Los Angeles area.
A January 16th Reuters article by Lisa Baertlein quoted Randy Adams, chief
executive of AuctionDrop as saying, “Only 8% of our customers have ever
sold on eBay, so it’s totally incremental for them.”… Adams, a so-called
“serial entrepreneur”, sold his start-up Internet Shopping Network to the
Home Shopping Network in 1994. Baertlein also stated in her article
that AuctionDrop has plans to expand its West Coast hub, then expects to
open an East Coast hub in New Jersey or New York, and a Midwest hub in
Chicago. Later plans call for hubs in Dallas and Atlanta to support local
stores in both those areas.
So what is the downside? Well, we agree with Ina
Steiner. The well-respected expert on online auctions from AuctionBytes
(www.auctionbytes.com)
remarked, “You can’t believe how much interest these drop-off stores are
generating. I remain skeptical.”
For starters, getting “started” isn’t cheap with the franchises.
iSold It charges a base price of $15,000, plus has a long list of anticipated
start up costs on their website at http://www.i-soldit.com
We found the anticipated costs realistic and it should
prove to be a good starting point for anyone looking to go into a brick-and-mortar
business. Click on the Open Your Own Franchise button on the home page.
What we didn’t anticipate was that iSold It would also be collecting a
royalty of 5% of sales, with an additional 2% of sales collected into a
joint store-advertising fund. That means an additional 7% of sales goes
back to headquarters before a franchise owner even begins to make a dime!
Fees to the seller aren’t cheap either. Fees at the privately
held AuctionDrop vary depending on which of 2 levels a seller chooses.
The basic service consists of a 7-day listing with a $1.00 opening bid
and no reserve, a “Gallery” photo and bold type to help your item stand
out The fee is strictly commission, 38% of the first $200; 30% of the next
$300; 20% of the remaining amount (over $500).
For the Premium Service - $19.99 Prepay* you get
all the benefits of Basic Service, plus:
* you can set a higher opening bid than $1.00
* your listing will run for 3 additional days (10 days total)
* you have the option of selling your item quickly with a fixed “Buy
It Now” price
Prepay is credited towards AuctionDrop’s commission
if the item sells. A chart on the Auction Drop website outlines precisely
how much a seller could expect to receive for an item in various price
ranges. This would appear to be a selling mechanism aimed at higher priced
items. An item selling for $50 would only reap a seller $29 after the $19
AuctionDrop fee and the $2 eBay fee. At that level, why bother? But a $500
item would gain a seller $319.63 after the $14.36 eBay fee and the whopping
$166 AuctionDrop fee!
Then there is the problem with name recognition. One would
think that a firm with the name of QuikDrop would actually have the name
QuickDrop ? but a glance at the website at http://www.quickdrop.com
reveals a private investment firm. Hence the “quick” spelling of QuikDrop
to correspond with the available website www.quikdrop.com
The fees charged to a seller at this franchise firm are identical to those
at the privately owned AuctionDrop. In this reporter’s opinion, the QuikDrop
website isn’t as slick as some of the others we viewed. For example, the
homepage contained the following sentence: “Once an item or vehicle has
been sold, payment is collected and it’s shipped it to the winner.”
We particularly found amusing the section on franchise fees:
“The QuikDrop opportunity is one of the hottest in the franchise industry
today, not only for its exciting product line of eBay services, but for
low investment and start-up costs compared to other franchise companies.”
Oh, really?
The cost of opening a QuikDrop store will vary depending
upon size and location. Based out of Costa Mesa, CA, QuikDrop already has
stores in Texas, California, Alabama, Montana, Virginia, and South
Carolina. According to the website, “An applicant needs a minimum of available
cash in the amount of $35,000 to open an average QuikDrop store. Larger
stores in higher priced locations could require a minimum available cash
in the amount of $55,000. These figures include the current franchise fee
of $15,000 and the QuikFlow software license fee of $1,995. Master Franchises
are available for developing an entire country,”
Yes, the sentence at the end just ended with a comma. Clearly this firm
needs to hire a proofreader with sentences like the following under the
description for the firm’s Vice President, Griff Hamlin: “Hamlin obtained
is Ph.D. from the University of North Carolina in Computer Science.”
There are some typos that Spell Checker just doesn’t
pick up.
Is there a downside?
Of course, there are some aspects to the QuikDrop system that
are intriguing. Behind all of these businesses is the concept of
customers bringing in merchandise, leaving it off for sale at auction (for
a fee or commission)… sound like anyone you know? Like your local consignment
store? Or, as in your local auctioneer…
All the systems have the potential for fraud. What
if you don’t get paid as a consignor? What if your merchandise disappears?
What if there is a fire? What if one day you drive by and the store is
no longer there? Let’s be honest. This has happened in the “real”
auction world as well as for consignment shops and antique and collectibles
group shops.
Dealers and consignors to the auction firms in states
that license auctioneers, like NH, ME, VT and MA, allegedly have recourse,
usually by filing against the auction firm’s bond (usually $10,000). In
the big cases we’ve covered in the past 15 years, where firms handling
millions of dollars in consignments filed bankruptcy, the consignors usually
received nothing, or pennies on the dollar. In the cases involving shops,
dealers typically ended up working with the local police department. Some
ended up in small claims court… that is, if they were lucky enough to locate
the “missing” shop owners. And of course, there is the argument are these
new “drop-off” stores acting as an auction firm, should they be licensed
or regulated? If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck…
The QuikDrop model states:
Cash Receipts and Disbursements
QuikDrop franchise owners do not need to worry about processing
credit cards or sending out checks to customers. Why? Part of the success
of QuikDrop’s franchise model is attributed to the centralized QuikFlow
system.
Many small businesses fail simply because they do not
have a sophisticated enough financial management system. As a QuikDrop
franchisee, your business will have the billing and disbursements streamlined.
The QuikFlow software includes a centralized billing module where all of
PayPal transactions, credit cards transactions, check and money orders
are processed, and checks mailed to your customers without you even having
to lick a stamp. Handling the billing and payments centrally is just another
way the QuikDrop model allows you to concentrate on getting more customers,
making more money, and keeping current clients happy.”
I don’t know about you, folks, but if I was running this
business I’d want to handle my own money, not leave it up to some centralized
“billing module”.
Auction Wagon (www.auctionwagon
.com), based out of West Hollywood, seems to be one of the smaller
firms. With a straightforward 20% commission base (plus applicable eBay
and Paypal fees). in the same scenario as mentioned earlier, a $50 item
selling with Auction Wagon would net the seller $31.25. There is a $15
minimum fee, so despite the claim on the Auction Wagon website that states:
“Garage sales used to be the only way to cost-effectively sell all that
unwanted stuff sitting in your closets. However, who really wants to devote
their weekend to putting up signs, setting up in the front yard, and arguing
with strangers over price? Today’s online marketplace allows your goods
to be seen by millions of shoppers who can compete for your items over
the course of multiple days. We take care of everything, and you’re free
to enjoy your weekend.”
Despite their claim, we suspect there are only so many
“garage sale” items that would be worth listing at a $15 minimum fee.
Some of the smaller entries into the eBay drop-off stores
include NuMarkets and Auction Wagon. Auction Wagon, based in Lake Forest,
CA, could also use a spell checker. Not meaning to be picky, but if you’re
going to launch a website to promote your business to the world, read it
over, have your friends read it over, then have a lawyer, accountant and
finally a proofreader look it over. Sentences like “Best Sellers - Need
some ideas an what you could sell?” just don’t cut it. OK, no doubt I’ll
receive a zillion emails on typos in this article J http://www.myauctionvalet.com
NuMarkets (www.numarkets.com
) based out of Tennessee, has bold plans to expand their presence.
According to their website: “Will you be expanding
your locations to my area? Yes NuMarkets is rapidly expanding locations
and will deploy over 50 location in 2004. Watch for a NuMarkets to open
in your city.” Interestingly, like several of the other smaller stores
mentioned in this article, NuMarkets offers free pickup if you have numerous
items… sounds like a housecall to me.
This firm answers one of the questions that none of the
others did…what happens with returns? According to their website: “Product
may be returned if not satisfied within 10 Days. Buyers pays shippings
and handling and a $25.00 restocking fee.”
No folks, those are not OUR typos, but theirs…We couldn’t
make this stuff up.
Getting Enough Merchandise
The big question would appear to be, how much merchandise
do you need to sell in order to not only support the overhead required
by one of these drop-off stores, but to actually turn a profit? It’s
an intriguing question. When eBay first started, and the prices being realized
for many antiques and collectibles were soaring online (and most items
were selling), a number of people around New England tried implementing
the “drop off” idea, either at an existing antique shop they owned, or
out of their homes. Most of those businesses have since closed. With
an average sell-through rate of less than 50% on eBay, that means you need
double the merchandise just to hold the line…not to mention that most dealers
are complaining that prices on eBay are dropping, not rising.
A January article by Chris Taylor (eBay for Dummies) for
Fortune magazine online, asked, “Will it work? Some longtime industry
watchers are skeptical. After all, PostNet and Auction Drop are not the
first players in this space. Two predecessors, TIAS.com and MyEZSale.com,
had 14 and seven drop-off locations, respectively, at the height of the
dot-com boom in 2000. MyEZSale had to shutter its doors for lack of funding,
while TIAS now simply sells antiques and collectibles on its website. “Consignment
companies don’t have a lot of control over the inventory,” says David Steiner,
president of Auctionbytes.com, a news website for online sellers. “They’re
at the mercy of whatever comes through the front door.”
“For now, at least, Auction Drop doesn’t have a problem
with intake Adams (Auction Drop creator Randy Adams), is eager to hire
140 new staffers on top of the 60 he already employs and still expects
to post a profit this year. Neither TIAS nor MyEZSale had a hub-and-spoke
model, let alone a well-oiled one. And Adams is no dot-com spring chicken.
His years as a serial entrepreneur—one of his companies failed, the other
five left him a multimillionaire—will provide invaluable experience as
Auction Drop goes nationwide.”
Adams is quoted as saying, “Our goal is clicks and mortar on
every corner.”
Of course, these new drop-off stores are meant to sell
everything from computers to coins, TV’s to your grandmother’s diamond
ring. And how about that digital camera you got a Christmas. Gee, isn’t
your local pawnshop where most of these items would have gone in the past?
Since pawnshops are heavily regulated to prevent
stolen merchandise being pawned and sold through them, we went to Steve
Mack, President of SuperPawn and Greg Westover, VP of Logistics,
to get the bigger picture.
Steve is the third generation in his family to be involved
in the pawn business … but on what a scale! With headquarters in Nevada,
SuperPawn is the largest privately owned pawn company in the United States.
Mack was actively involved 25 years ago in writing Nevada’s laws governing
pawnshops, but sees no threat from the new eBay drop-off stores. Indeed,
they are embracing the concept. SuperPawn has been selling its merchandise
on eBay for years. SuperPawn operates 45 Stores with 450 employees in 5
Western States, and has a feedback rating of over 27,000. Now that’s a
Power Seller!
Working with eBay’s API, SuperPawn has developed a fully
integrated software system that has cut the costs of listing and selling
items on eBay to a fraction of what it costs other businesses. “SuperPawn
is proud to be a certified eBay developer,” said Greg Westover. “eBay has
recognized that SuperPawn has the necessary infrastructure to achieve this
honor. eBay’s API has helped lower our operating costs in all facets
of managing an item listed on eBay and the immense savings are passed on
to our customers.”
Because of their specialized in-house software, eBay buyers
of SuperPawn merchandise must pay for it on the SuperPawn website www.superpawn.com
which
at this time does not support Paypal. Payment must be by credit card and
only one issued by a US bank. Still, the system has lots of pluses.
It enables the company to post for sale thousands of items daily on eBay,
with much lower costs than other brick-and-mortar sellers. This is not
something Mack said he has seen so far in any of the proposed drop-off
stores. Westover said he didn’t believe the other businesses had the systems
in place to handle the type of volume required to be profitable.
Both men agreed that these new business models seemed
to be in a grey zone; not a pawnshop, not a true consignment shop…sort
of a hybrid, but are they acting as auctioneers? Steve Mack also mentioned
they believe these businesses should be required to follow the existing
laws governing pawn, consignment and auction firms. Record keeping and
7 day holding period were just a few of the laws mentioned. Otherwise,
drop-off stores could become a haven for stolen merchandise. Mack said
in the long term he was sure they would be required to comply with existing
laws.
With so much competition, I asked Mack if he thought it
conceivable there could be a “shortage” of merchandise to sell in the future,
and he replied, “We are a disposable society,” adding that only 12% of
what is “out there” for potential merchandise is recycled.
We emailed all of the eBay drop-off businesses the
same question: we were wondering if your firm has run into any problems
with “state licensing” issues; i.e., specifically any state auction licensing
boards.
Andrea Roesch, spokesperson for AuctionDrop wrote back,
Hi Kathy,
I checked and have been told that we haven’t had any issues regarding “state licensing”.
Best,
Andrea
Daniel Cowles of AuctionValet also wrote back to say,
Hello Ms. Greer,
Our current plans call for a West coast expansion in the near term. As for your question about licensing, we will only enter areas where it makes financial sense. We will have to take the licensing issue on a state by state basis. In states where the licensing doesn’t cause a great financial or clerical burdon, then we will expand in those states. In the other states, we will probably delay any expansion plans there.
Sincerely,
Daniel Cowles
CDC Partners, LLC
auctionValet
23591 Rockfield Blvd, Suite F
Lake Forest, CA 92630
A Level Playing Field?
In February, 2002, eBay announced its “Trading Assistant” program.
In two years time, 30,000 members signed up. eBay has made no bones about
wanting, no needing to grow… and to grow, it needs more sellers.
Hani Durzy, eBay’s spokesman said eBay embraces the “offline” drop off
store concept and has no plans to open stores of its own. “We need more
sellers,” he said.
At the end of January, 2004 eBay announced it has created
a new marketing program called “Trading Posts” and has signed on with two
drop-off storefront businesses, allowing them to use the name and eBay
affiliation. How this agreement with AuctionDrop
and Postnet will shake out in the
next six months should prove to be interesting, at the very least. According
to AuctionBytes Ina Steiner, “Postnet offers a host of copying- and shipping-related
services in its stores. [Ed. Note: think Kinko’s] Under an agreement with
eBay, Postnet is allowed to set up “eBay Trading Posts” in its franchise
retail centers. eBay is giving Postnet a head start, promising it will
be the only “mailing services” (or pack-and-ship) business allowed to use
the Trading Post for eBay branding. The exclusive deal expires after the
first two quarters of 2004, after which eBay may bring in other pack-and-ship
services to the program.”
Steiner wrote in her Jan. 28, 2004 AuctionBytes newsletter,
“Postnet stores had participated in an eBay consignment service several
years ago under an agreement with MyEZsale. Steve Greenbaum, CEO of Postnet,
said he learned lessons from that venture. MyEZsale had provided computers
and training to pack-and-ship stores, which sold items on eBay on consignment
basis under the MyEZsale moniker. Greenbaum believes MyEZsale failed because
they put a financial burden on the stores with large upfront costs.”
Steiner reported, “Greenbaum said Postnet
already has computers and Internet connections since they provide Internet
services to their customers. There are 850 Postnet locations in 44 states
and abroad, and Postnet has an aggressive expansion plan. Postnet charges
a $2.99 listing fees to consignors ($14.99 if they want to set a minimum
bid). Postnet takes a 40% commission for items under $500, and 25% of the
price for items that sell for $500 and up. Postnet store employees create
the auction descriptions and take the photographs of the item. Postnet
headquarters does the actual listing and customer service for the auctions,
although the item stays at the store location.”
“Postnet stores share the 40% commission with Postnet
headquarters,” Steiner wrote, adding “The stores also benefit by charging
for packing services when they ship the item. And they benefit from volume
discounts from UPS and other shipping companies.”
As for AuctionDrop’s plans. Spokesperson Andrea wrote
to say, “We plan to open a hub in New Jersey with satellite stores in the
surrounding tri-state area. Each hub will process (professionally photograph,
research, write an accurate and detailed listing, post on eBay, answer
customer inquiries for both sellers and buyers, warehouse, process payment,
pack and ship) the items that come into the surrounding AuctionDrop stores.
Having all our listing specialists at our hub in
the San Francisco Bay Area has helped us provide more accurate and informative
listings for our customers as each item goes to the listing specialist
most versed in that area (i.e. antique silver or consumer electronics).
Our professional photographers are also at the hub and this aids in maintaining
our high standard of quality while also making the process more efficient.
We pride ourselves in excellent quality and service at every step of the
online auction process.”
As we went to press, the latest entry into the eBay
brick-and-mortar drop-off stores announced Picture It Sold would be launching
soon:
www.pictureitsold.com
In the meantime, eBay continues to grow. They
announced they had a successful fourth quarter in 2003 with gross profit
for the last three months of 2003 a record $532.9 million. eBay said
it may reach $3 billion in net revenue in 2004, a year earlier than anticipated.